I wish I went to a co-op program

TheReem
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
If you don't have connections in the industry you want to work in, and if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to make it into dean's list, you will wish you went to Waterloo/Laurier co-op program rather than Queen's/Ivey/Schulich, etc.

#truestory
#realtalk
#fullofregrets
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UBCGuy
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
@TheReem wrote
If you don't have connections in the industry you want to work in, and if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to make it into dean's list, you will wish you went to Waterloo/Laurier co-op program rather than Queen's/Ivey/Schulich, etc.

#truestory
#realtalk
#fullofregrets



A couple of years of work after graduation I'm sure you'll be just as competitive, and worst case scenario your career will be a year or 2 behind (but co-op students usually graduate later, right?). I don't think it'll make that dramatic of a difference in the long-run so try not to sweat it.
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TheReem
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Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
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@UBCGuy wrote

@TheReem wrote
If you don't have connections in the industry you want to work in, and if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to make it into dean's list, you will wish you went to Waterloo/Laurier co-op program rather than Queen's/Ivey/Schulich, etc.

#truestory
#realtalk
#fullofregrets



A couple of years of work after graduation I'm sure you'll be just as competitive, and worst case scenario your career will be a year or 2 behind (but co-op students usually graduate later, right?). I don't think it'll make that dramatic of a difference in the long-run so try not to sweat it.

Also, don't feed the troll.



I am already as competitive. But life is just easier in a co-op program if you don't have connections. 
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UBCGuy
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
@TheReem wrote

@UBCGuy wrote

@TheReem wrote
If you don't have connections in the industry you want to work in, and if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to make it into dean's list, you will wish you went to Waterloo/Laurier co-op program rather than Queen's/Ivey/Schulich, etc.

#truestory
#realtalk
#fullofregrets



A couple of years of work after graduation I'm sure you'll be just as competitive, and worst case scenario your career will be a year or 2 behind (but co-op students usually graduate later, right?). I don't think it'll make that dramatic of a difference in the long-run so try not to sweat it.

Also, don't feed the troll.



I am already as competitive. But life is just easier in a co-op program if you don't have connections. 



You should be able to build connections in the years you work after you graduate, and then be able to move on a couple years later as you would if you were graduating from co-op. And life isn't easier in co-op, those students still have to work hard because if they don't build a good reputation their connections aren't worth anything. I'm sure that at Queens, of all places, they have plenty of networking opportunities and chances to find internships, so why don't you focus the time you would have otherwise spent on co-op on those?

Also, apparently you've had interviews with:

<br>ExxonMobil,
ONCAP Private Equity,
Manulife,
Symcor,
BMO,
2 of Big Pharmas.<br><br>
It doesn't really sound like a lack of connections is really a huge detriment for you.
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TheReem
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Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
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@UBCGuy wrote

@TheReem wrote

@UBCGuy wrote

@TheReem wrote
If you don't have connections in the industry you want to work in, and if you don't have the intellectual horsepower to make it into dean's list, you will wish you went to Waterloo/Laurier co-op program rather than Queen's/Ivey/Schulich, etc.

#truestory
#realtalk
#fullofregrets



A couple of years of work after graduation I'm sure you'll be just as competitive, and worst case scenario your career will be a year or 2 behind (but co-op students usually graduate later, right?). I don't think it'll make that dramatic of a difference in the long-run so try not to sweat it.

Also, don't feed the troll.



I am already as competitive. But life is just easier in a co-op program if you don't have connections. 



You should be able to build connections in the years you work after you graduate, and then be able to move on a couple years later as you would if you were graduating from co-op. And life isn't easier in co-op, those students still have to work hard because if they don't build a good reputation their connections aren't worth anything. I'm sure that at Queens, of all places, they have plenty of networking opportunities and chances to find internships, so why don't you focus the time you would have otherwise spent on co-op on those?

Also, apparently you've had interviews with:

<br>ExxonMobil,
ONCAP Private Equity,
Manulife,
Symcor,
BMO,
2 of Big Pharmas.<br><br>
It doesn't really sound like a lack of connections is really a huge detriment for you.



It's easier in co-op. 
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UBCGuy
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
I'm sorry for calling maynards a troll, it looks like he pegged the nail on the head.
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maynards
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
@UBCGuy wrote
I'm sorry for calling maynards a troll, it looks like he pegged the nail on the head.


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UBCGuy
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
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I'm sorry for calling maynards a troll, it looks like he pegged the nail on the head.






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AgriGen
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 
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computerengineer
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 


Could you elaborate please? I just want to expand my knowledge.
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SkylarNoeL
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
@computerengineer wrote

@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 


Could you elaborate please? I just want to expand my knowledge.



All it is is that students not in SAF (Biotech/CA, Math/CA and AFM-CA) are not allowed to access CATO (CA Training Office) co-op jobs through the Jobmine co-op system.
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SkylarNoeL
Posted: 7:06AM June 04, 2012 UTC
@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 



I disagree. You won't be competing with as many people as during the summer when everyone from every non-co-op school (aka Schulich, Ivey, Queen's, Rotman) is trying to get an internship, and it basically forces you to get into the networking and interview part of business which regular program students could shy away from (i.e choosing to relax during their summers instead of looking for internships).
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AgriGen
Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
@SkylarNoeL wrote

@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 



I disagree. You won't be competing with as many people as during the summer when everyone from every non-co-op school (aka Schulich, Ivey, Queen's, Rotman) is trying to get an internship, and it basically forces you to get into the networking and interview part of business which regular program students could shy away from (i.e choosing to relax during their summers instead of looking for internships).



1. Some of my coops have been during the summer and everyone else regardless of what stream your in is going to do atleast one summer coop. Also.. people from other schools will take fall/winter off to do internships.

2. In my opinion coop sometimes does the opposite with people.. they dont network, interview, search for external postings, etc. Instead they sometimes get lazy and just mass apply to a lot of coop postings because its more convenient. In the long run they sell them selves short here. 
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AgriGen
Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
@computerengineer wrote

@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 


Could you elaborate please? I just want to expand my knowledge.



Its a long discussion and I am pressed for time right now but if you check out my link in the sign youll find some previous posts I made on coop :)
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Anonymous
Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 


U cereal? Waterloo coop is bomb
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AgriGen
Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
@leafs2013 wrote

@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 


U cereal? Waterloo coop is bomb
#realniggatalk



Miscer.. :p

Meh.. I didnt enjoy it too much. Its important to remember I think coop at waterloo is better for some majors than others. CS/engineering I think coop is a fairly decent advantage vs no internships at all. Ditto for accounting too I think.. for a lot of those in the arts though I dont think the hype is relevant 
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GoldenHawk
Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
@AgriGen wrote

@SkylarNoeL wrote

@AgriGen wrote
Coop has little advantage over regular programs.. in fact I might say coop is a disadvantage at waterloo depending on your program. 



I disagree. You won't be competing with as many people as during the summer when everyone from every non-co-op school (aka Schulich, Ivey, Queen's, Rotman) is trying to get an internship, and it basically forces you to get into the networking and interview part of business which regular program students could shy away from (i.e choosing to relax during their summers instead of looking for internships).



1. Some of my coops have been during the summer and everyone else regardless of what stream your in is going to do atleast one summer coop. Also.. people from other schools will take fall/winter off to do internships.

2. In my opinion coop sometimes does the opposite with people.. they dont network, interview, search for external postings, etc. Instead they sometimes get lazy and just mass apply to a lot of coop postings because its more convenient. In the long run they sell them selves short here. 



This is based on your experiences as an ARBUS co-op. Math/Eng co-op at UW is much, much better than all the other faculties (just look at the employment numbers) and they give a better idea of what co-op can be like. It just goes to show that not all co-op programs (even at UW) are good. I don't think your experiences in co-op accurately describe the true reality of co-op programs. 
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AgriGen
Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
Yes I always tell people coop is not equally as good for all majors. Even still though I think the advantages are really over hyped and people dont look at the bad side of coop sometimes. 
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TheReem
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Posted: 7:06AM June 06, 2012 UTC
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@youmirin wrote

@AgriGen wrote


Miscer.. :p

Meh.. I didnt enjoy it too much. Its important to remember I think coop at waterloo is better for some majors than others. CS/engineering I think coop is a fairly decent advantage vs no internships at all. Ditto for accounting too I think.. for a lot of those in the arts though I dont think the hype is relevant 



wut?

are you aware?



do you even lift
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