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Hey everyone!
So as University applications are coming up, I was wondering if they look at my midterm or my final.
I want to get into Queens and ill also be applying to all major business schools like Shulich, Ivey, AFM, Rotman, etc. Queens is just my main goal!
I believe my ECs are well rounded and strong enough, Im just scared my marks wont be.

Here's a breakdown of my marks so far:
- Advanced Functions taken in semester 2, gr11: 78%; im retaking this in nightschool at the moment and im highly confident I can get a 90+ because of the chill teacher and past students telling me its really easy!
- ENG4U: Took in the summer, got a 88%
- Im taking Kinesiology, World Issues, and Calculus this semester and Im really worried about Kinesiolology and Calculus. 
Before you ask why in the world im taking Kin, it was either that or Biology so didnt really have an option..
World Issues is no problem, but im scared my Kin and Calculus marks wont be good enough by midterms, im talking like low to mid 80s. (Its a possibility, could be worse or better but I just think thats where it'll be) 

So yeah, when applications come around, will they look at my midterms? I was convinced no they wont, because I still wont have a top 6, so I thought theyll look at my final and then my midterm of second semester to come to a conclusion. Is this correct?
Another question, whats a good average I should aim for to be competitive? 

Thanks guys!
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I am in first year Queens Commerce myself and can say based on how I viewed the whole application process last year for Commerce unless you are chancellor in which they will use midterm/final semester one combined with grade 11 they will most likely only look at your final semester one and then maybe midterm semester two. 

For this years incoming class they received ~2000 more applications than previous years and only really had one biggish round of acceptances May 16th which wasn't even Thursday and did very rare acceptances from chancellor release til then. I do not know if this trend will continue into this year.

You will hear people say once you get over an 89 they do not care about marks, however with ~7000 applications last year I heard within the program how they sort the reading of applications is based on grades. Highest they see first and lowest last, meaning they may have reached their quota already if they get to the lower averaged applications; and hence waitlisting.

To give you insight into AFM and Shulich, I was accepted to Schulich in their first round in December/January I believe with a ~95 average with grade 11 and 12. I was not accepted to AFM til a later date and did not even get in to their first round at a ~95 average. 
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Thanks for the insight! If I may ask, what did your ECs look like when applying to Queens? 
And how does the application process look like? Essay wise basically, what do they ask? 
Another question in regard to the chancellor, I asked my guidance about it a couple weeks ago and she was honoured to nominate me but I haven’t had 90+ throughout grades 9-11... does that strictly matter to even be nominated let alone get the actually scholarship? which I’m certain I won’t LOL. I would just like to be nominated but just don’t know how it really works.
Also, how’s queens as a first year? Workload, stress, social life, etc?
Thank you for your helpful response, I am kind of relieved that they’ll hopefully look at my final marks. 

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My extracurriculars were nothing spectacular however they were unique. My main one I highlighted was how I worked at  my job for 3 and a half year and went through countless promotions and training. On top of that I did do a few things outside of school and work such as my MPs youth council and Model United Nations. 

I always ask, what separates you from the 7000 other applicants, and on top of that how many of them are doing the things you’re doing? Like DECA, or some other business clubs? Probably more then 475, so it is very important to be unique in what you do and convey that. Probably 450 weren’t managers at their jobs while holding a 95 average. 

Essay basically asked to talk about yourself and how you can relate your experiences to benefit the commerce program. It’s important here in my opinion to be very confident and persuasive through your words. Convince them that you are unique and 1/7000. 

I honestly have no clue about nominations, I never applied because I didn’t feel I needed the scholarship or that I was involved enough in the school community to truly be a potential nominee! However, I’m sure if teachers think hat you’d be a good candidate then you have potential! 

I actually don’t find it too stressful if you can sit yourself down and do the readings. A lot of people get lost in the parties and social life which is certainly there you just got to moderate yourself to ensure everything is getting done and you don’t fall far behind....because it is very easy to fall behind. 
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Thanks for the reply, really helpful and informative response. 
My strongest ECs I think are these:
- I was a camp counsellor for three months under big brothers big sisters and I had a big responsibility coordinating and running the camp. I acted as a mentor to these children who lived in disadvantaged areas and and basically, these 3 months were very humbling. 
- School basketball and volleyball since grade 9.
- 200+ volunteer hours
- investment and stock market club founder and president for 2 years
- event coordinator at school since grade 9 
- tutoring children for 2 years
- I want to start a DECA this year but I dont think it’s going to happen :(
I have some more smaller ECs that don’t really matter I don’t think like volunteering. I was also going to start a entrepreneur venture this past summer with a entrepreneurship program for teens and I regret doing it because I think it would of looked amazing. 
What are your thoughts on my ECs?
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They are decent, but again, nothing really stands out to me.
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I really liked the ones where you founded the clubs, it’s unique and challenging, you definitely should highlight and reference those throughout the essays. Additionally, feel free to throw in all the other ones as they fit in, but usually I found there were only enough words to highlight one and just talk about it!
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Yea you have a good point. I just feel like that 3 month counselling position is best.
I also forgot to mention I am a Business SHSM student so idk maybe I can talk about that?
Thanks however for everyone’s response!
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Ivey over queens any day of the week. Similar companies hire at both schools but at Ivey you know you are going to get higher caliber class mates. Queens once you are in you are in. But Ivey as an AEO or even as a second year applicant you must maintain high academic standing and ECs to stay in the program. In addition, Ivey alumni blows queens Com alumni out of the water. 1/2 grads a leadership position in their company whether it be manager, director, CEO, partner etc. Many people are afraid of the 80% but frankly if you are going to succeed anywhere you will need to keep up your marks. 

In addition you get the infamous Western student life and there's more cultural and ethnic diversity. 

P.s: this is coming from someone who got accepted at Queens, Ivey, Schulich and Laurier!! 
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Agree with you on all terms! 
It would be an honour to get into both, I would just lean towards queens since I can do business right away instead of waiting two years. But the alumni and  more opportunities interests me with Ivey. Hopefully I can get in to either or! 
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OP, it's a kid who actually goes to Ivey but has not started yet (as Ivey does not start until 3rd year). Don't listen to this guy, they are both great schools. He will realize it himself once he starts the program and enters the job market.
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I never said Queens wasn't a good school I was just saying the alumni is what tips the odds in Ivey's favour. And I'm AEO too dude
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Both of the universities are good and will get you far. It really depends on the person and if they want to go through the 2+2 program of Ivey or start commerce from day 1 in Queens. I'd say the 2+2 program benefits people who are interested in other stuff too, for example, if someone likes computer science they can first do that and then study business. However for people who are only interested in business and commerce stuff Queen's would be a better choice. So in the end it really depends on the person and which path they want to take because either way both of them will get you far.
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How does the alumni tip the favour? You think adults in the real world are like you kids giving favouritism only to students from their alma mater in the job market? There are established professionals from both programs.
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