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Business: Ryerson or Trent?

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I plan to do Marketing/ HR. Which would be the best choice?
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I know that at Trent, if you take certain courses you can get accredited for being a human resource specialist (I forgot what the official title is), which is pretty great. I dont know much about Ryerson, but I do know that Trent has an awesome campus and is in a great town. Definitely dont count it out right away, it doesnt have much recognition but I definitely think it is underrated. I dont want to say anything about Ryerson because I would have to make things up, except that I THINK I may have heard that Ryerson was good for marketing? Not 100% on that though.
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I've been giving this lots of thought too.......

Easy Choice: Trent

Reasons:
- Honours BBA (same as Schulich, Ivey, Laurier)
- Flexible program at Trent vs NO Flexibility at Ryerson (you can take other courses...and you never know...what if you ever want to explore another subject or do a "minor"
- Campus (Ryerson has nice classrooms but the school is on top of Canadian Tire and Best Buy AWAY from the main Ryerson Campus - BAD look and feel). Trent has a pretty campus
- Ryerson is still known as Ry High (Trent's reputation is neither good nor bad)
- City - Peterborough is nice

Go check out Ryerson - the students are all crammed in the building waiting to get into class - there is nowhere to "hang out" - the Library, Gym, Etc are all 15 minutes away). At Trent, it looks and feels like a University.
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I'm going to come out and say that I honestly don't know which school is better for Marketing/HR but I'd like to clear up a few things. :P


@Aware wrote
I've been giving this lots of thought too.......

Easy Choice: Trent

Reasons:
- Honours BBA (same as Schulich, Ivey, Laurier)
- Flexible program at Trent vs NO Flexibility at Ryerson (you can take other courses...and you never know...what if you ever want to explore another subject or do a "minor"
- Campus (Ryerson has nice classrooms but the school is on top of Canadian Tire and Best Buy AWAY from the main Ryerson Campus - BAD look and feel). Trent has a pretty campus
- Ryerson is still known as Ry High (Trent's reputation is neither good nor bad)
- City - Peterborough is nice

Go check out Ryerson - the students are all crammed in the building waiting to get into class - there is nowhere to "hang out" - the Library, Gym, Etc are all 15 minutes away). At Trent, it looks and feels like a University.



- BBA and BComm are essentially the same thing. You can get the same jobs with either.

- We have minors at Ryerson TRSM.

- The OP should look at both the TRSM building and the Trent building before making a judgement. I personally love the TRSM building but others may not. Completely subjective.

- In talks of reputation, Ryerson's Business program is increasing at a rapid pace. Funny enough actually, I haven't heard the term "Rye High" used once by anybody who goes to other schools.

- Which city you like is completely subjective. Once again, get a taste of both places before making a decision.

Good luck OP! My suggestion would be to think about what kind of university experience you'd want to have. Ryerson is much more of a commuter school which means there won't be as many crazy Rez parties while Trent will probably have more of that university feel.

Also, are you a downtown person or a suburban person? That is something to look at as well.
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@Aware wrote
I've been giving this lots of thought too.......

Easy Choice: Trent

Reasons:
- Honours BBA (same as Schulich, Ivey, Laurier)
- Flexible program at Trent vs NO Flexibility at Ryerson (you can take other courses...and you never know...what if you ever want to explore another subject or do a "minor"
- Campus (Ryerson has nice classrooms but the school is on top of Canadian Tire and Best Buy AWAY from the main Ryerson Campus - BAD look and feel). Trent has a pretty campus
- Ryerson is still known as Ry High (Trent's reputation is neither good nor bad)
- City - Peterborough is nice

Go check out Ryerson - the students are all crammed in the building waiting to get into class - there is nowhere to "hang out" - the Library, Gym, Etc are all 15 minutes away). At Trent, it looks and feels like a University.



I wouldn't exactly be calling Trent a neutral school. Ryerson has a better reputation then Trent. Trent is like the back up school for kids who didn't get into Ryerson, so in other words, COMPLETE morons, while Ryerson only accepts a few morons now 'an' days.

Also, anybody who still calls Ryerson rye high either has a low IQ or is some dumb high school kid going off of stereotypes their friends made up.
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@dancecubed wrote
I'm going to come out and say that I honestly don't know which school is better for Marketing/HR but I'd like to clear up a few things. :P


@Aware wrote
I've been giving this lots of thought too.......

Easy Choice: Trent

Reasons:
- Honours BBA (same as Schulich, Ivey, Laurier)
- Flexible program at Trent vs NO Flexibility at Ryerson (you can take other courses...and you never know...what if you ever want to explore another subject or do a "minor"
- Campus (Ryerson has nice classrooms but the school is on top of Canadian Tire and Best Buy AWAY from the main Ryerson Campus - BAD look and feel). Trent has a pretty campus
- Ryerson is still known as Ry High (Trent's reputation is neither good nor bad)
- City - Peterborough is nice

Go check out Ryerson - the students are all crammed in the building waiting to get into class - there is nowhere to "hang out" - the Library, Gym, Etc are all 15 minutes away). At Trent, it looks and feels like a University.



- BBA and BComm are essentially the same thing. You can get the same jobs with either.

- We have minors at Ryerson TRSM.

- The OP should look at both the TRSM building and the Trent building before making a judgement. I personally love the TRSM building but others may not. Completely subjective.

- In talks of reputation, Ryerson's Business program is increasing at a rapid pace. Funny enough actually, I haven't heard the term "Rye High" used once by anybody who goes to other schools.

- Which city you like is completely subjective. Once again, get a taste of both places before making a decision.

Good luck OP! My suggestion would be to think about what kind of university experience you'd want to have. Ryerson is much more of a commuter school which means there won't be as many crazy Rez parties while Trent will probably have more of that university feel.

Also, are you a downtown person or a suburban person? That is something to look at as well.


I think Aware was referring to a minor in the sense of something unrelated to business. Sociology is the only "minor" on Ryerson's list that would meet that need, if it's something that someone is looking for.

I also want to defend Peterborough - it isn't as suburban of a feel as Mississauga is (I come from Mississauga). Peterborough definitely still feels like it has a downtown (which actually seems targeted specifically at Trent students despite the existence of Fleming) even though it doesn't have as large of a population.

I actually don't know very much about business at Trent (haven't really befriended anyone heading in that direction - the focus of the school is more on teachers...). All I know about it is that it's the best if you have other interests and want a flexible degree while you pursue your business endeavours.
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@dancecubed wrote
I'm going to come out and say that I honestly don't know which school is better for Marketing/HR but I'd like to clear up a few things. :P


@Aware wrote
I've been giving this lots of thought too.......

Easy Choice: Trent

Reasons:
- Honours BBA (same as Schulich, Ivey, Laurier)
- Flexible program at Trent vs NO Flexibility at Ryerson (you can take other courses...and you never know...what if you ever want to explore another subject or do a "minor"
- Campus (Ryerson has nice classrooms but the school is on top of Canadian Tire and Best Buy AWAY from the main Ryerson Campus - BAD look and feel). Trent has a pretty campus
- Ryerson is still known as Ry High (Trent's reputation is neither good nor bad)
- City - Peterborough is nice

Go check out Ryerson - the students are all crammed in the building waiting to get into class - there is nowhere to "hang out" - the Library, Gym, Etc are all 15 minutes away). At Trent, it looks and feels like a University.



- BBA and BComm are essentially the same thing. You can get the same jobs with either.

- We have minors at Ryerson TRSM.

- The OP should look at both the TRSM building and the Trent building before making a judgement. I personally love the TRSM building but others may not. Completely subjective.

- In talks of reputation, Ryerson's Business program is increasing at a rapid pace. Funny enough actually, I haven't heard the term "Rye High" used once by anybody who goes to other schools.

- Which city you like is completely subjective. Once again, get a taste of both places before making a decision.

Good luck OP! My suggestion would be to think about what kind of university experience you'd want to have. Ryerson is much more of a commuter school which means there won't be as many crazy Rez parties while Trent will probably have more of that university feel.

Also, are you a downtown person or a suburban person? That is something to look at as well.


I think Aware was referring to a minor in the sense of something unrelated to business. Sociology is the only "minor" on Ryerson's list that would meet that need, if it's something that someone is looking for.

I also want to defend Peterborough - it isn't as suburban of a feel as Mississauga is (I come from Mississauga). Peterborough definitely still feels like it has a downtown (which actually seems targeted specifically at Trent students despite the existence of Fleming) even though it doesn't have as large of a population.

I actually don't know very much about business at Trent (haven't really befriended anyone heading in that direction - the focus of the school is more on teachers...). All I know about it is that it's the best if you have other interests and want a flexible degree while you pursue your business endeavours.



1. I misread that as him saying there were no minors offered at Ryerson Business school. My apologies!

In that case, it is true. I wish Ryerson's program was a tad bit more flexible in the minors category (wanted to minor in Psychology) but they still offer a wide variety of courses for electives.

2. Thank you for that. This is the exact reason that someone should go to both places before judging it. I'm completely guilty of judging it based off of a few opinions (friends who go to Trent).

Thanks for posting this, seriously.
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This is a good and important topic.
As a follow-up, I thought that I would post a few facts.
Firstly, though...dancecubed is right on, while imback is just silly.

Agree that the Hons BBA and BCOM are comporable. York Schulich, Western Ivey have HBBA (like Trent) and Queens has a BCom (like Ryerson). What's absurd are degrees such as BAS (York Atkinson) and BMOS (Western NON-Ivey).

In regards to dancecubed comments: agree that Ryerson is a commuter school with a downtown TO look and feel. I, personally do not like that. Also, the Business School at Ryerson is in 1 building away from the main campus. Students hang out all day "camped" waiting for the next class. Its like a college feel. Trent is a "campus". Students may move from Library to class to Rez to the gym, etc. This does NOT happen at Ryerson.

Toronto is busy; Peterborough is serene - sort of like Kingston or London (nice University Towns).

Also, I agree with dancecubed that NOT offering program flexibility is a MAJOR negative at Ryerson. The "great" programs at Schulich, Queens, Rotman, McMaster, Laurier, Western, etc are ALL part of a larger University and the Business Students can take anywhere from 60 - 100% of their courses in Business. The point is that they can explore other options, take "double majors", do a "minor", etc. Ryerson, does NOT give you any flexibility.

Re: imback - you are dead wrong in many regards. The Globe and Mail Survey lists York, UoT, Quebec, and Ryerson DEAD LAST in terms of student satisfaction. Guess what...they are commuter schools. In terms of the Macleans rating, under the "Primairly Undergraduate" Schools, you see that Ryerson is ranked 17/22 while Trent is ranked 6/22. Of course, this is just 1 scale, but its worth noting.

In terms of attracting the best students: face it, the best students in the TO area (who want to stay in TO) would choose York Schulich or UofT Rotman. "Secondary" Schools would include: Guelph-Humber, Ryerson and UOIT. Note that these schools ALL have a prescribed business program with virtually NO electives!!! This is very bad from many perspectives, expecially if you decide later that Business is not for you and you have no transferable creidts to any other program.

"Secondary" Schools outside of Toronto would include Trent, Laurier, Guelph and Brock.
Trent has the benefit of a small and pretty campus with significant program flexibility. At Trent then you can get a HBBA with a Monor in Computing, or an HBBA with a Minor in Psychology, or just an HBBA in Marketing or Finance. True, though, that Trent does not have as broad a course selection as some of the largest schools - but then neither does Brock, UOIT, etc.
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