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McGill vs Toronto vs UBC

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So I'm currently a Grade 10 student in Ottawa, Ontario interested in medicine. I want to become a M.D. (Family physician). So far, my first choice is UBC. Although it's third ranking according to this article I read, I really think the environement, weather and getting to live with other international students is really exciting. Please give me your opinions about these universities. Thanks :)
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Hi there! It's great that you're thinking about potentially becoming a physician this early. It takes a lot of thought to take the plunge! Keep in mind, this post is just going to focus on Ontario medical schools as other provinces differ in their admissions policies.

If you want to go to a Canadian medical school, you need to complete your first undergraduate degree. Whether it's in History, Communications, Chemistry, Engineering, do something you'll enjoy yet get a high GPA in!

Once you're done your second year of your undergraduate degree, you can start doing some preparation. You can start thinking about the MCAT at this point and take some preparation courses or study by yourself. Keep in mind that most MCAT write dates are during the summer and you might have to devote a lot of your time to this test. Some medical schools in Ontario require the MCAT, others require just a section from it and some don't look at it at all! After you wrote the MCAT, you can apply to Queen's, McMaster, Toronto and Ottawa during your third year. Also, you may have to complete some schools' prerequisites (usually only two or three courses) if you're in a non-science program. Some are successful at getting into medical school after third year, but in my experience, many have to apply in fourth year or as graduate students/graduates to get in.

Now that you're in medical school you have a three year or four year program ahead of you and a residency afterwards. For family medicine, the residency is three years in length and other residencies are much longer. Within specialised residencies, you will more than likely have to do a fellowship afterwards to further specialize and become more comfortable within your tiny slice of the field.

It's a long road, but from what I've heard and experienced, it's amazingly rewarding.





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+1 for putting UBC #1 on your list.. Vancouver is the place to be. :)

As for med school.. really think hard about it. Med school isn't even option unless you have at LEAST a 3.8 GPA, a 4.0 would be good.. along with community involvement in the field you want to pursue.

I've heard that U of T is a pretty tough place to achieve high marks in an undergrad degree, but the same can be said for McGill and UBC. I also heard that U of T doesn't take back as many of their own students for grad school, such as med school.
All 3 of those schools are pretty prestigious and intensive in terms of academics. You would have to work VERY hard to maintain high grades once in university at any of the 3 schools you've listed.

But you're only in grade 10, you still have 1 year and some odd months to think about you. If I were you, I would attend a university that isn't so well known so I would have a better chance of getting a higher GPA, but that would also be a downfall if you didn't study at a "big shot" undergrad school.

Best of luck!
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Thanks for the clarification :)I have a 90 average at the moment, but I'm pretty sure I can raise it up in second semester. I have seen an MD Undergraduate program at the UBC site. Is that a program I can take right away too?
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There really is no such thing as a "MD undergrad" program.
You can apply to med school with a degree in anything.. Arts.. Business.. Science..
as long as you have met the requirements in terms of GPA and credits.
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Having lived in British Columbia (still do), and been to Vancouver, I would highly encourage you to apply for UBC! British Columbia is a beautiful province, and Vancouver has it all.
However, be aware of several things:
1. Residence in Vancouver is generally quite expensive
2. Vancouver is BIG (evidently). If you don't like big, busy cities, this would not be a wise choice.
3. Vancouver is far from Ontario

I live in the Okanagan, which is a gorgeous region about 5 hours from Vancouver. UBC Okanagan is located in Kelowna, BC, and is a "branch" of UBC. I am considering attending there for my 1st year, then possibly transferring to UBC in Vancouver.
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McGill is your best bet for Medical, Education, Sciences, etc in Undergraduate studies. They specialize in the sciences and education, not necesarily the arts.
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@EvanieNicole wrote
1. Residence in Vancouver is generally quite expensive


Residence is actually pretty cheap. It's getting your own apartment that's expensive because Vancouver's an expensive city.


@EvanieNicole wrote
2. Vancouver is BIG (evidently). If you don't like big, busy cities, this would not be a wise choice.


UBC is a good half hour from downtown Vancouver. So most of the time you'll actually be in a pretty secluded, "natural" environment.


@EvanieNicole wrote
3. Vancouver is far from Ontario


REALLY?!


I would also choose UBC. Ignore rankings; they're useless. (But for the record, UBC often ranks ahead of McGill.)
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@Zion wrote

@EvanieNicole wrote
1. Residence in Vancouver is generally quite expensive


Residence is actually pretty cheap. It's getting your own apartment that's expensive because Vancouver's an expensive city.


@EvanieNicole wrote
2. Vancouver is BIG (evidently). If you don't like big, busy cities, this would not be a wise choice.


UBC is a good half hour from downtown Vancouver. So most of the time you'll actually be in a pretty secluded, "natural" environment.


@EvanieNicole wrote
3. Vancouver is far from Ontario


REALLY?!


I would also choose UBC. Ignore rankings; they're useless. (But for the record, UBC often ranks ahead of McGill.)




Agreed, plus like others have mentioned UBC has such a nice campus. I was there on a field trip on a rainy day the campus was still so nice. Had a really good vibe to it. And I think Zion's a fellow B.C. kid :batman:
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Gahh... sooo excited :oo Any advices on which undergrad subjects to take?
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@cyynthiia wrote
There really is no such thing as a "MD undergrad" program.
You can apply to med school with a degree in anything.. Arts.. Business.. Science..
as long as you have met the requirements in terms of GPA and credits.



The MD degree is considered an undergraduate degree. Many Commonwealth countries still confer a MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine; Bachelor of Surgery) upon completion of medical school but in North America the name of the degree is different.

All "undergraduate MD" programs in Canada are second-entry undergraduate professional programs requiring at least two, three or four years of previous undergraduate study.
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@EvanieNicole wrote

I live in the Okanagan, which is a gorgeous region about 5 hours from Vancouver. UBC Okanagan is located in Kelowna, BC, and is a "branch" of UBC. I am considering attending there for my 1st year, then possibly transferring to UBC in Vancouver.



Actually, I'm pretty sure you can't. =/
UBCO used to be Okanagan College and when UBC bought it over, they didn't change the courses so they don't transfer.
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I'm also interested in Medicine. I've received undergrad offers of admission into UFT, UTM, Guelph and Waterloo for life sciences. I'm still indecisive, not sure which school I should go to, which would enable me to acquire a high GPA, volunteering and being well rounded. Your advise would be appreciated.
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