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I went to the Enrollment appointment last night, Friday May 19th and to be honest I was not pleased. I am currently find out which university I want to go to and I was hoping it would help me decide.

It felt like I was rushed the whole time I was there. The counselor/presentor was trying to be nice, but she you can tell she was getting irritated and was being bitchy.

I felt so much more comfortable with the student helper, she was much nicer and friendlier though. All my questions I asked the student because she gave me accurate answers now the general broad ones the instructor gave me.

People wise, it was interesting. The class was VERY diverse. I was surprised to see so many girls (maybe cause I take all science courses and applied to engineering as well).

Overall impression was okay, but the instructor was a huge turn off. I was rushing to take my courses and made up a random schedule because she was bitching at me the whole time. I found the instructions a bit unclear, maybe because i was unprepared and didn't do my timetable ahead of time.

I was expecting more help and nicer attitude.

The appointment was suppose to be from 9:30 to 11:30 but we ran abit late. It looked like she had somewhere to go and she was shooing everyone out.



That's how I felt, how did everyone else like their appointments?
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I attended mine on the 17th and decided against it. I like this thread already. +1.

I wrote this in a message to a person: "I say this school lies and misleads people and that its reputation is through ignorants who fall prey to such tactics".


"Impersonation - pretending your [sic] somebody else". Was this still there? Her poor English clearly was.

Idiolect - how can you speak about clear speech when you cannot speak yourself? The students I found to be no better in this respect. Business. My foot. How do they expect to get ideas across to people of other nationalities with "like"s, "um"s,"I dunno"s, and "whatever"s? My list is longer than this, but my grievances can be aired in installments.

How many people did you meet with 100s in Philosophy? In Psychology? In Gay & Lesbian Studies? Did the co-ordinator brag about this year being the highest admission average ever?



This is a fairly detailed list of my grievances from the "Of Universities" thread.

- The lack of co-operative education is not good

- Not many jobs available to undergraduate students, most are targeted at (i)MBAs

- York University is a dump

- Residences at York are bad for aforementioned reason

- Commuting is a nightmare

- iBBA lacks proper coverage of all languages it offers (personal note)

- The school lies about the ratio of people it accepts to the people it declines because it hides the number of people who rejected it (personal note)

- The 50/50 system they claim to implement is as well a lie. They look for presence of the supplementary form and accept people with the highest averages in order to raise the school's entering average (about which they will then brag (personal experience (my enrolment appointment (soon-to-be cancellation)))) (personal note)

- Many of the staff are cold and unfriendly (unfortunately, not a personal note)

- The school claims to emphasise clear speech and writing, yet abhorrent grammar is present in all its materials (e.g. "Impersonation - pretending your [sic] somebody else (the fact that this enrolment presentation was never deviated from, never corrected, does not make me feel good)) (not a personal note, witnessed by many others)

- Electives are silly (personal note)

- Personal experience: From my conversations with students, I realised that many use ridiculously high grades in humanities for their admission averages. 100s in Philosophy, Psychology, Gay & Lesbian Studies are common




















Notes for you:

Geological Engineering can be fun. I would find it fun.

If you can survive in Engineering Science, go ahead. (You are likely to hate it.)
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Electives are really funny,

Introduction to Bollywood Films

You don't just have to farm your way into the university, you can destroy your gpa in university too


You said ALOt of negative things about it, I don't agree with all them but a couple. They really don't look at supplementary, I don't think any university does to be honest.

I was thinking the university seems too easy. I didn't know how to interpret it. Is that a good thing or bad? I am used to being challenged so this is different.

The instructor was bad, but I didn't have a problem with her communication, just more of her attitude and persona.


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Geological Engineering does sound interesting, but I am unsure of what I want. Do I want to work in an urban society or further away.

I know I like biology and chemistry thats why I picked Engineering Science as my first choice. I plan to be a Biomedical Engineer, or maybe a doctor if possible.

I'm at a very confused state.
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@zaidpass wrote
Electives are really funny,

Introduction to Bollywood Films

You don't just have to farm your way into the university, you can destroy your gpa in university too


You said ALOt of negative things about it, I don't agree with all them but a couple. They really don't look at supplementary, I don't think any university does to be honest.

I was thinking the university seems too easy. I didn't know how to interpret it. Is that a good thing or bad? I am used to being challenged so this is different.

The instructor was bad, but I didn't have a problem with her communication, just more of her attitude and persona.







You have to be daft to perform poorly in a program such as Schulich's.

Which things do you not agree with?

University, for many easy programs, is easy. Fewer classes and more slack time.

Attitude and persona - what do you expect? Her beginning speech on the 17th went something along these lines:

"Here at the Schulich School of Business, we are pleased to offer you a number of courses (available at the Schulich School of Business) and after you have taken those courses at the Schulich School of Business, you will have a new, modern outlook at the world from the perspective the Schulich School of Business has taught you in courses from the Schulich School of Business".

Paraphrasing. Her grammar is lame on both legs.






@zaidpass wrote
Geological Engineering does sound interesting, but I am unsure of what I want. Do I want to work in an urban society or further away.

I know I like biology and chemistry thats why I picked Engineering Science as my first choice. I plan to be a Biomedical Engineer, or maybe a doctor if possible.

I'm at a very confused state.




Should have gone for Biomedical Science for becoming a doctor.


Further away? Do you mean in rural areas? For that, you could be a country vet (see James Herriot's All Creatures Great And Small). If you were to go into Geological Engineering, you would not be drilling a major hole inside the Rogers Centre. Certainly rural. Does the program have co-operative education?




Notice: it is late and I made three stupid typographical errors. I apologise.
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I didn't want to take Biomedical sciences because I am not 100% sure what I want to be. Don't want to end up with a life science degree...

I don't want to work in rural areas, but geological does sound interesting. Yes it is a co-op program.

At the same time Eng sci is what makes UofT ranked 13th in the world.
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@zaidpass wrote
I didn't want to take Biomedical sciences because I am not 100% sure what I want to be. Don't want to end up with a life science degree...



You can go into medicine with any degree. You just need the prerequisite courses.


@zaidpass wrote
I don't want to work in rural areas, but geological does sound interesting. Yes it is a co-op program.



Call some people at Waterloo and ask them about the program. Maybe, if you can find them, look at the courses you will be taking. Undergraduate calendars are sometimes very difficult to find.


@zaidpass wrote
At the same time Eng sci is what makes UofT ranked 13th in the world.



Which is of no relevance if you find this is not what you like.




We seem to have gone off-topic...

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I don't know who your instructor was, but I found mine to be pretty delightful and helpful (I went in April). She was probably just agitated that you didn't make a timetable ahead of time, and then again some people just have bad days for whatever reasons. I found the people to be pretty diverse as well, and I liked the group that I was with. I found them easy to get along with.

Despondent, chill out a bit with your entire rant on grammar. I know that it doesn't make the school look good, but it's only a minor detail that we've witnessed from a few people. It's very easy to pick away at details, and ultimately what matters through communication is that the message gets across. A lot of your judgement about the school is coming purely from your enrollment appointment and the Dean's Reception. I understand that it's a first outlook on the school for many prospective students, but it's not all there is to it. Personally, I have quite a few friends scattered throughout all years of the program and the general consensus is that they enjoy it. They all feel like they're part of a strong and dedicated community.

But, I respect your opinions.

From what I've heard, it shouldn't be all to hard to keep yourself in the program, but it isn't all too easy to carry a high GPA, which is ultimately what matters. You can't be a complete idiot and expect to achieve a high average.

I'll conclude by saying that no school is perfect, and that each one has its pros and cons. It's all just a matter of opinion, and some of us prefer Schulich over the others.
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I don't know who your instructor was, but I found mine to be pretty delightful and helpful (I went in April). She was probably just agitated that you didn't make a timetable ahead of time, and then again some people just have bad days for whatever reasons. I found the people to be pretty diverse as well, and I liked the group that I was with. I found them easy to get along with.

Despondent, chill out a bit with your entire rant on grammar. I know that it doesn't make the school look good, but it's only a minor detail that we've witnessed from a few people. It's very easy to pick away at details, and ultimately what matters through communication is that the message gets across. A lot of your judgement about the school is coming purely from your enrollment appointment and the Dean's Reception. I understand that it's a first outlook on the school for many prospective students, but it's not all there is to it. Personally, I have quite a few friends scattered throughout all years of the program and the general consensus is that they enjoy it. They all feel like they're part of a strong and dedicated community.

But, I respect your opinions.

From what I've heard, it shouldn't be all to hard to keep yourself in the program, but it isn't all too easy to carry a high GPA, which is ultimately what matters. You can't be a complete idiot and expect to achieve a high average.

I'll conclude by saying that no school is perfect, and that each one has its pros and cons. It's all just a matter of opinion, and some of us prefer Schulich over the others.



1) I have had more dealings than just with the EA and DWC.

2) If there is any thing at all that must reign supreme if a person is ever thinking of surviving outside of North America (Mexico not included), it is communication. When that is gone, everything is gone.


I often say this: I am biased and my experience is individual. I object to the education system in Toronto (elementary and high school (I will try not to expand that to Canada on the whole)). It is dreadfully rotten. Now, I probably cannot, in this country, many people find who would agree with me, but experiencing other education is of benefit because it gives rise to comparisons.





Co-ordinator of EA: Lily.
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I want to know other peoples experiences !
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the best answer to this is

Just get drunk and play ping pong :)

WHOS WITH ME
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