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hey, so a friend of mine is considering either going to UTM for economics or Mac for economics..
He is an okay person in math(if that matters), and also he lives in Mississauga, nearby the UTM campus.

any suggestions would help
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UTM!!!!!
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UTM <3
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UofT(UTM) hands down. number one economics program in the country, top 10 in the world.

but you say he is not good at math? he will struggle heavily! 1st year isnt too bad, but after that its pure mathematical hell. in fact you have to take some math courses as prerequisites for upper year courses.
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@matt2014 wrote
UofT(UTM) hands down. number one economics program in the country, top 10 in the world.

but you say he is not good at math? he will struggle heavily! 1st year isnt too bad, but after that its pure mathematical hell. in fact you have to take some math courses as prerequisites for upper year courses.


Are you in that program or something? I am considering it as well. First year is only one math which is calc... and afterwards i heard you take more business related courses?
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I would strongly recommend you to choose UTM Economics over Mac Eco.
If you are going to UTM for Economics, here are some notes to you:

There were 2 prof teaching ECO100Y this year (2010-2011): Prof Bailey and Prof Ho

-Prof Bailey is definitely a tough one. He teaches very fast, and is using blackboard. It's a MUST that you pay 100% attention when having his class, it will be such a torture if you just miss single world from him(no kidding).
His course has 4 tests(the lowest doesn't count), 4 tutorial quizzes(the lowest doesn't count), 20 online quizzes, and 1 final exam.

-Prof Ho is a senior lecture who just started teaching ECO100Y at UTM this year(2010-2011). He teaches with powerpoint slides, in a much slower pace than Prof Bailey. His tests are relatively much easier than Prof Bailey's, as he has said to his students during one of his test review lecture: Doing Bailey's tests are suicide!

Hope this help.
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@unitime wrote

@matt2014 wrote
UofT(UTM) hands down. number one economics program in the country, top 10 in the world.

but you say he is not good at math? he will struggle heavily! 1st year isnt too bad, but after that its pure mathematical hell. in fact you have to take some math courses as prerequisites for upper year courses.


Are you in that program or something? I am considering it as well. First year is only one math which is calc... and afterwards i heard you take more business related courses?



yeah i just switched into specialist in economics from commerce.

here is a description of 2nd year micro theory course (ECO206Y):

A rigorous mathematical treatment of the basic tools of economic analysis regarding consumer and producer theory. Applications may include but are not limited to: choice under uncertainty, oligopoly, industrial organization, pricing, resouce allocation, intertemporal consumption, labour supply, externalities, public goods, income distribution and welfare economics. This course is a requirement for certain Specialist Programs and is strongly recommended for students contemplating graduate school.


the courses are not easy, but if you can get through 2nd year economics, you should be fine for the rest.
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@FrancesFrance wrote
I would strongly recommend you to choose UTM Economics over Mac Eco.
If you are going to UTM for Economics, here are some notes to you:

There were 2 prof teaching ECO100Y this year (2010-2011): Prof Bailey and Prof Ho

-Prof Bailey is definitely a tough one. He teaches very fast, and is using blackboard. It's a MUST that you pay 100% attention when having his class, it will be such a torture if you just miss single world from him(no kidding).
His course has 4 tests(the lowest doesn't count), 4 tutorial quizzes(the lowest doesn't count), 20 online quizzes, and 1 final exam.

-Prof Ho is a senior lecture who just started teaching ECO100Y at UTM this year(2010-2011). He teaches with powerpoint slides, in a much slower pace than Prof Bailey. His tests are relatively much easier than Prof Bailey's, as he has said to his students during one of his test review lecture: Doing Bailey's tests are suicide!

Hope this help.




DO NOT TAKE M.Ho's eco100 class if you intend to do economics. you will be at an huge disadvantage. Bailey teaches way more content compared to Ho. The thing I noticed in Baileys class is people either did really well or failed.
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@matt2014 wrote

@FrancesFrance wrote
I would strongly recommend you to choose UTM Economics over Mac Eco.
If you are going to UTM for Economics, here are some notes to you:

There were 2 prof teaching ECO100Y this year (2010-2011): Prof Bailey and Prof Ho

-Prof Bailey is definitely a tough one. He teaches very fast, and is using blackboard. It's a MUST that you pay 100% attention when having his class, it will be such a torture if you just miss single world from him(no kidding).
His course has 4 tests(the lowest doesn't count), 4 tutorial quizzes(the lowest doesn't count), 20 online quizzes, and 1 final exam.

-Prof Ho is a senior lecture who just started teaching ECO100Y at UTM this year(2010-2011). He teaches with powerpoint slides, in a much slower pace than Prof Bailey. His tests are relatively much easier than Prof Bailey's, as he has said to his students during one of his test review lecture: Doing Bailey's tests are suicide!

Hope this help.




DO NOT TAKE M.Ho's eco100 class if you intend to do economics. you will be at an huge disadvantage. Bailey teaches way more content compared to Ho. The thing I noticed in Baileys class is people either did really well or failed.





So true, Prof Bailey told me this year that in one of his ECO100 morning class, there are more than 300 people getting 4.0(but this is before test 4), so yah! I know Prof Ho's tests are much easier compare to Prof Bailey's, but the averages for tests are lower than Bailey's. The average for the first test for Ho's class had this year, is around high 50s (like 57?, can't remember exactly).
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@matt2014 wrote

@FrancesFrance wrote
I would strongly recommend you to choose UTM Economics over Mac Eco.
If you are going to UTM for Economics, here are some notes to you:

There were 2 prof teaching ECO100Y this year (2010-2011): Prof Bailey and Prof Ho

-Prof Bailey is definitely a tough one. He teaches very fast, and is using blackboard. It's a MUST that you pay 100% attention when having his class, it will be such a torture if you just miss single world from him(no kidding).
His course has 4 tests(the lowest doesn't count), 4 tutorial quizzes(the lowest doesn't count), 20 online quizzes, and 1 final exam.

-Prof Ho is a senior lecture who just started teaching ECO100Y at UTM this year(2010-2011). He teaches with powerpoint slides, in a much slower pace than Prof Bailey. His tests are relatively much easier than Prof Bailey's, as he has said to his students during one of his test review lecture: Doing Bailey's tests are suicide!

Hope this help.




DO NOT TAKE M.Ho's eco100 class if you intend to do economics. you will be at an huge disadvantage. Bailey teaches way more content compared to Ho. The thing I noticed in Baileys class is people either did really well or failed.



Thanks for the heads up guys! So Bailey or Ho ? :P
Also, he wanted to know what the average CGPA for financial economics is? if you guys know anything about that...
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@mwfm2011 wrote

@matt2014 wrote

@FrancesFrance wrote
I would strongly recommend you to choose UTM Economics over Mac Eco.
If you are going to UTM for Economics, here are some notes to you:

There were 2 prof teaching ECO100Y this year (2010-2011): Prof Bailey and Prof Ho

-Prof Bailey is definitely a tough one. He teaches very fast, and is using blackboard. It's a MUST that you pay 100% attention when having his class, it will be such a torture if you just miss single world from him(no kidding).
His course has 4 tests(the lowest doesn't count), 4 tutorial quizzes(the lowest doesn't count), 20 online quizzes, and 1 final exam.

-Prof Ho is a senior lecture who just started teaching ECO100Y at UTM this year(2010-2011). He teaches with powerpoint slides, in a much slower pace than Prof Bailey. His tests are relatively much easier than Prof Bailey's, as he has said to his students during one of his test review lecture: Doing Bailey's tests are suicide!

Hope this help.




DO NOT TAKE M.Ho's eco100 class if you intend to do economics. you will be at an huge disadvantage. Bailey teaches way more content compared to Ho. The thing I noticed in Baileys class is people either did really well or failed.



Thanks for the heads up guys! So Bailey or Ho ? :P
Also, he wanted to know what the average CGPA for financial economics is? if you guys know anything about that...





3.3 CGPA.

not the easiest cgpa to meet. especially after 2nd year eco courses.
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