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What is the hardest Canadian business program to get into?

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First off congrats to everyone on their admissions! :cheers:

Second, my question. As the topic heading says, in your opinion (based off facts/statistics etc), what is the hardest Canadian business program to get into? I'm not necessarily asking what the best business program in Canada is, but which is the most difficult when it comes to admissions?
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I'm not all too sure, but from my own personal opinion I think the Math/CA Program at 'Loo is challenging to get into. There are others for sure though.
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Math/CA is not really a business program but it's definitely probably one of the hardest undergraduate programs to get into.

For Canadian Business programs, the top tier business programs are all the hardest to get into: Ivey AEO, Queens, Mcgill and Schulichs. You can't really say any are the hardest - different people have different troubles getting in. For e.g. people with high marks have an easy time getting into Mcgill and Schulichs but may have trouble getting into Queens or Ivey AEO.

I'd say Math/CA is harder to get into than all of these programs however.
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Business programs have different approaches to evaluating and admitting an applicant. You have to remember that they each have a different amount of places and according to their own predictions will send out their offers. The applicants to registrants ratios can be found in CUDO statistics if you do want to compare them in depth. Keep in mind that some of these programs tend to attract students under their cutoff which may make the statistics look very competitive.Looking at it based on the number of offers sent out and how these are determined I'll choose which is the Hardest to get into.

They all seem to have their own cutoff which is determined by the talent of the applicants. Then some of these schools also have a form which may play the deciding role in choosing an applicant.

Marks depend on the system which the applicant is studying for example the IB/AP/GCE or Ontario curriculum. Each school has a set number of students they choose from that system. It may also depend on the location of the candidate. I have noticed that it tends to be easier to be admitted to Queens or Mcgill than Schulich or Rotman as a student with international credentials however as an Ontario Student it is the opposite . Remember that it all depends on the types of students who have applied and the number of spots the University is willing to give out to each system of study. I'll be looking at the Ontario point of view.

Those schools which base their decision solely on Marks are
Mcgill 92+ and Laurier with 87+( if you fall 3% short you fill the ABS for a chance)

Those which require a form are Rotman, Schulich, Queens and Ivey.
From these 4 it seems that the form plays a different role in each of their decisions. Rotman in terms of marks require high 80s then tag this along with a supplementary form. Schulich and Ivey both have 50/50 system where they need 90+ and then the form makes up the other half. Queens needs an 87 then go on to reading their PSE.

I do not know the exact scores each university may need in both Math and English but this may play a part in calculating the top6 average. There are other factors which are not announced but may also be evaluated like what ranking you placed the program on OUAC and etc.

Looking at each form in detail (I have not seen Rotman) however Schulich,Ivey and Queens tend to be nearly the same in terms of content and what they ask of you. Essays, Extra Curricular and Awards. Schulich also asks for written References. However I feel like in terms of how much importance is given to the Forms Queens comes out on top. They place it over marks if 87+ is exceeded and in my opinion will attain the best candidates like this. You will get students who have got 95+ but have not been accepted and this is unheard of with any other program. Schulich, Ivey and Mcgill are all very competitive but I must conclude that in my opinion Queens Commerce is the hardest program to get into.
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Agreed.

And then there's the question of what is the hardest Canadian program to remain in.
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@Socialism wrote
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Agreed.

And then there's the question of what is the hardest Canadian program to remain in.




as for remaining part.. prob doubledegree at uw/wlu!
it's also hard to get into..
60/60 spots
bba/cs is even harder.. 35/35 spots.

but i agree that math/ca is more competitive and harder to get into.

schulich isn't that hard to get into... to be honest.

but QC is definitely hard
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I applied to Schulich and Rotman. I got my Schulich acceptance late April/ early May but I still havn't received my offer from Rotman. My average was 90% 1st semester which got me no early acceptances but my mid-term marks for 2nd semester was 93.3%. As soon as schulich got that they accepted me for iBBA program. UofT does it in waves, so they are waiting for all the marks to be received. They are sending out their offers mid-may if I am not wrong.
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I applied to Schulich and Rotman. I got my Schulich acceptance late April/ early May but I still havn't received my offer from Rotman. My average was 90% 1st semester which got me no early acceptances but my mid-term marks for 2nd semester was 93.3%. As soon as schulich got that they accepted me for iBBA program. UofT does it in waves, so they are waiting for all the marks to be received. They are sending out their offers mid-may if I am not wrong.
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I would say UBC Sauder, Queen's and Ivey.

All need AT LEAST 90%.

I got a friend who was straight up rejected to Sauder with 95% with a decent supp.

Also Friends that are still waiting for Queens with 92-94% averages. (BC Students should get them first but they are still waiting for almost 4 months now).

Ivey rejected many students with high 80s and put them into BMOS.

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All of the CA programs at Waterloo (minus AFM-FM) are very difficult to get into. Thousands of people apply (majority Asian), and many with very high marks, and even still many of those people get deferred or rejected.

AFM-PA
Math/CA
Biotech/CA (this one is not so much business but is quite possibly the hardest program to get into)

It depends what you would define as a "business" program, as those are not your traditional programs since they focus solely on CA/accounting.

If you're talking about the general BBA program, then Queen's is probably the hardest I would say because they put so much emphasis on extra-curriculars and the supplementary form, honestly once your average is above 90, it doesn't even matter how high it is because each person with a 90%+ average is viewed practically the same, it all just comes down to ECs and the PSE. Many people with mid 90s get rejected from the program.

With Ivey it's still possible to get in with a subpar supplementary form if your average is above the 90% plateau.

Schulich....lol, basically if you have around a 91 or higher, you're pretty much in. Supplementary is not valued much here, despite the whole 50/50 stuff they preach.
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@Cuiter23 wrote
I would say UBC Sauder, Queen's and Ivey.

All need AT LEAST 90%.

I got a friend who was straight up rejected to Sauder with 95% with a decent supp.

Also Friends that are still waiting for Queens with 92-94% averages. (BC Students should get them first but they are still waiting for almost 4 months now).

Ivey rejected many students with high 80s and put them into BMOS.





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If you guys count the Waterloo programs as a business program, then I have no doubts that the biotech/CA program is the hardest to get into.

From personal experience (no facts to back this up), when Schulich and Ivey gave out their offers a lot of my friends got in with me. For McGill and Queen's, I got in with only a couple of other classmates. That being said, I think McGill and Queen's are the more competitive schools to get into (as mentioned in the OP, not necessarily the best schools).
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