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Will my plan work out? (UofT Computer Science).

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Hey guys,

I'm getting really nervous now. So I'm making plans just in case I did not get into UofTSG Computer Science. Either I do Mac Engineering, or this.

1. Come back for one more semester, do 3 bird courses to up my average (Now 84%).

2. Apply for Winter Term at UofTSG (Can I do that?).

3. Do the winter term, and then do a summer term, so I can catch up and be ready for 2nd year.

That way I would not be behind and still be able to go to UofTSG Comp Sci. I'm really interested now after seeing the campus and the open house yesterday, it was really good! Might sound weird but I just came up with this plan on the spot. Don't know if it would actually work out.

Edit: Actually thinking about it, I would only do 1 or 2 bird courses

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Hi, what are your calculus and english marks? If these are decent enough, you have a good shot of getting in. You could likely receive an alternate offer to UTM or UTSC, if so, do this and transfer later on. You could also receive an alternate offer to another science at UofT.... you can accept this and still do first year compsci courses and then elect to pursue it as a major.

Regarding the winter term, you should email the UofT registrar for more information, but I don't think this plan is going to work too well, as in you will most likely be losing an entire year.

Good luck, don't get anxious if you aren't hearing from UofT, I didn't get my acceptance until very late May.
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@CYYZ24ILS wrote
Hi, what are your calculus and english marks? If these are decent enough, you have a good shot of getting in. You could likely receive an alternate offer to UTM or UTSC, if so, do this and transfer later on. You could also receive an alternate offer to another science at UofT.... you can accept this and still do first year compsci courses and then elect to pursue it as a major.

Regarding the winter term, you should email the UofT registrar for more information, but I don't think this plan is going to work too well, as in you will most likely be losing an entire year.

Good luck, don't get anxious if you aren't hearing from UofT, I didn't get my acceptance until very late May.



OP: You should be fine in getting an offer, although, like the above poster said it really depends on your english and calculus marks.

CYYZ24ILS: How is UofT computer science so far? How difficult are the math and computer courses? Also, how are the professors?
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Sigh, i got 78 in english (hardest english teacher in the school, class average was 70% -_-)

Also i got an 83 in calculus, you think those two would be good enough for UofTSG, I really do not want to go to UTM and espicially not UTSC, no offence I just hate Scarborough.

Edit: Actually sorry that 78 is a mid-term mark, the calc is final. Will it make a difference if the english is final or mid-term?

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I have a 97 average and I'm not going to U of T because of the difficulty.
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@Zion wrote
I have a 97 average and I'm not going to U of T because of the difficulty.



I'm hearing all sorts of things about this. Honestly I know people who go to UofT and they all say it's not that bad IF you study hard (that's a big if). What courses did you take, I'm just wondering.

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@premachb wrote
Sigh, i got 78 in english (hardest english teacher in the school, class average was 70% -_-)

Also i got an 83 in calculus, you think those two would be good enough for UofTSG, I really do not want to go to UTM and espicially not UTSC, no offence I just hate Scarborough.

Edit: Actually sorry that 78 is a mid-term mark, the calc is final. Will it make a difference if the english is final or mid-term?

Thanks



You've got a good chance, keep up your overall average and you will get in for sure. Don't be discouraged if you don't see an acceptance soon, like I said I didn't see mine until like two days before the deadline to choose.

@Tostitos, things pick up much more in second year because you take a broader amount of courses related to computer science. In first year you will be doing a year of python (from scratch), a year of calculus, and a semester of logic/proofs/reasoning for CS. There have been big changes for CS coming for Fall 2011, particularly with "specializations" within the CS major. You can see those http://www.cdf.toronto.edu/~clarke/ugn/programs2011/concentrations/ there.

Another big thing coming for Fall 2011 is that they've changed the calculus course you're required to take from MAT137 to MAT135. The difference is that 135 is your basic standard calc course, whereas 137 is sort of an "introduction to analysis" type course; that is it focuses more on mathematical proofs and rigour. For years this has been the GPA killer of many.... just google it and see for yourself :). So with this change you new guys get a bit of a break.

The intro to python courses you take CSC108/CSC148 are interesting, fun, and although a bit challenging to those with no programming experience they are rewarding. CSC165 (the logic/reasoning class) dwells more into the theoretical aspect of computer science... it's a building block for more advanced courses you take later on.

All in all, it's tough, but not impossible. I started out as a mathematics major but decided to do CS as well because I really enjoyed python. You pick up more languages in your second year and really just dwell deeper into the basic things you learn in first year. The professors are good, I have nothing bad to say about them.
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@CYYZ24ILS wrote

@premachb wrote
Sigh, i got 78 in english (hardest english teacher in the school, class average was 70% -_-)

Also i got an 83 in calculus, you think those two would be good enough for UofTSG, I really do not want to go to UTM and espicially not UTSC, no offence I just hate Scarborough.

Edit: Actually sorry that 78 is a mid-term mark, the calc is final. Will it make a difference if the english is final or mid-term?

Thanks



You've got a good chance, keep up your overall average and you will get in for sure. Don't be discouraged if you don't see an acceptance soon, like I said I didn't see mine until like two days before the deadline to choose.

@Tostitos, things pick up much more in second year because you take a broader amount of courses related to computer science. In first year you will be doing a year of python (from scratch), a year of calculus, and a semester of logic/proofs/reasoning for CS. There have been big changes for CS coming for Fall 2011, particularly with "specializations" within the CS major. You can see those http://www.cdf.toronto.edu/~clarke/ugn/programs2011/concentrations/ there.

Another big thing coming for Fall 2011 is that they've changed the calculus course you're required to take from MAT137 to MAT135. The difference is that 135 is your basic standard calc course, whereas 137 is sort of an "introduction to analysis" type course; that is it focuses more on mathematical proofs and rigour. For years this has been the GPA killer of many.... just google it and see for yourself :). So with this change you new guys get a bit of a break.

The intro to python courses you take CSC108/CSC148 are interesting, fun, and although a bit challenging to those with no programming experience they are rewarding. CSC165 (the logic/reasoning class) dwells more into the theoretical aspect of computer science... it's a building block for more advanced courses you take later on.

All in all, it's tough, but not impossible. I started out as a mathematics major but decided to do CS as well because I really enjoyed python. You pick up more languages in your second year and really just dwell deeper into the basic things you learn in first year. The professors are good, I have nothing bad to say about them.



Hey CYY you were talking about the concentrations do you know anything about them? Cause I was just wondering how it worked. Do you take those courses in your concentrations as well with a specialization? Cause I wanted to do Software Engineering and that Web and Internet Technologies part sounds pretty interesting.

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Computer Science works like this at UofT. You can either do:
-Specialist (12 courses)
-Major (7-8 courses)
-Minor (4 courses)

To graduate with a UofT BSc or BA you need to complete the following. Either:
- 1 Specialist or
- 2 Majors or
- 1 Major, 2 Minors

The concentrations apply only to the CS Specialist program. The program consists of 12 courses that you must take. If you wish to follow a "concentration" (its optional), you can choose to do so, and you will take extra courses needed for them. Your concentration will be written on your degree. From what I understand the "Computer Systems" concentration is basically Software Engineering. You won't be making this decision until 2nd or 3rd year anyways, so you'd have plenty of time to think it through.
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@CYYZ24ILS wrote
Computer Science works like this at UofT. You can either do:
-Specialist (12 courses)
-Major (7-8 courses)
-Minor (4 courses)

To graduate with a UofT BSc or BA you need to complete the following. Either:
- 1 Specialist or
- 2 Majors or
- 1 Major, 2 Minors

The concentrations apply only to the CS Specialist program. The program consists of 12 courses that you must take. If you wish to follow a "concentration" (its optional), you can choose to do so, and you will take extra courses needed for them. Your concentration will be written on your degree. From what I understand the "Computer Systems" concentration is basically Software Engineering. You won't be making this decision until 2nd or 3rd year anyways, so you'd have plenty of time to think it through.



So these new concentration programs aren't replacing the Specialist program but just adding to it. Am I correct?
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Correct. They're also optional.
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