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AMA: Brock BAcc Graduate, Carleton MAcc Graduate, Big 4 Employee
My name is Neal, and I graduated from Brock's Bachelor of Accounting Co-op program in 2016 and Carleton's Master of Accounting program in 2017. I was a yconic Student Ambassador for 2016-17. Although I work full-time at PwC now, I'm still around answering questions about accounting as a career and universities. 

My co-op work experience includes:
-Corporate Accounting, Henkel (Germany)
-Assurance and Tax, Collins Barrow
-Risk Assurance, Ernst and Young

I currently work at PricewaterhouseCoopers in Assurance. . 

A snapshot of my time at Brock:  
-Served as an executive for several clubs  
-Participated in numerous internal/external case competitions and conferences  
-Served as a Tutorial Leader for Brock's first-year Macroeconomics course  
-Inducted into Beta Gamma Sigma (the top 10% of Goodman get invited)  
-Did co-ops and internships with 3 different companies in corporate accounting, assurance, tax and risk assurance located in Germany and Canada  
-Participated in a short-term exchange to France  
-Volunteered for the business school's Career Services office, where I critiqued students' resumes  
-Lived in residence (first-year) and off campus

A snapshot of my time at Carleton:  
-President of the Sprott MAcc Society  

Feel free to ask me questions below! Or you can add me on LinkedIn if you'd like to send a private message (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nsengupta).
Read this if you're going into a business program
hey guys, im a first year student at schulich, and i was probably in your place last year, stressing about ec's and averages, spending hours on this forum.

i know you guys are all smart, ambitious kids, wanting to get into queens, ivey, rotman, schulich, laurier, waterloo etc. I'm writing this post because I want to inform you guys on a few important insights that I gained only AFTER i started first year. 

1) Your program does not make or break your career
- this is so important for some of you to understand. yes queens is good, yes ivey presents opportunities in finance, but at the end of the day, your success is up to your GRIT, your determination, ability to consistently motivate yourself, pick yourself up after failure, and learn from mistakes. Your success in business depends on your ability to be extraverted, outgoing, enthusiastic. It depends on your ability to hold a pleasant conversation with people you just meet (NETWORKING). sure, a top program will provide you fantastic resources, but please please don't obsess over your program if its already between the top schools. also don't be condescending to people who choose to go to a program that YOU deem a lower tier than yours. those people may have traits that you don't have that will make them better students than you are.
this being said, i still want to give advice on HOW to choose your program, given that a lot of you will be receiving multiple offers. 
2) choose your program based on multiple factors, and choose wisely.
if you're SET on accounting, go to AFM (or even brock). big 4 love waterloo students.
if you're going into finance, in my opinion, your program doesn't matter a lot, u just have to have a crazy high gpa and be a very specific type of person (super driven, smart, sociable). but a lot of people interested in finance choose ivey, so u'll definately find a bigger finance community at ivey and queens than at schulich or afm. i don't know much about finance at laurier and rotman.
if you are undecided, which is probably the majority of you, i'd recommend to choose based on the experience you want out of university. Do you want to party and get out of town and away from your parents? choose ivey, queens or laurier. do you want a coop program so that you can alternate between work and school? choose afm or laurier (i highly recommend coop programs) do you want to stay at home and save money? choose schulich. do you want to drop out and hate life first year? choose rotman... haha i'm just kidding. for real though, rotman kids seem to have it SUPER tough and i already know a lot of people regretting rotman because their gpa's are really low, theres no coop, and the environment i heard is kind of hostile. but if you do choose rotman and end up graduating from there it is really impressive. everyone knows how hard rotman is. people who choose rotman tend to be the people whoare super ambitious and/or really idolize living in downtown. 
3) be conscious of your mental health
so on a very serious note, i know of a few business students right now that have depression that developed in first semester. i want to you to know that university is a whole different ball game. it really challenges your ability to push through some really tough times. you could be going through a break up and have 4 midterms in a week. please know your limitations. if you know you are not good at handling stress, and you break down very easily, i would recommend staying close to home. i know so many people who moved away and once frosh and all the partying ended, they started to get really homesick, and the homesickness did not go away. of course this isn't the case for everyone. however, as a business student, you're gonna go through a lot of stress. business isn't just about school grades, it's about building this personal brand also. it consumes so much of your life. if you have a life established back at home, e.g. you're a competitive dancer, you go to church, i'd say not to give that up and choose a program close to home so you can continue pursuing that passion. trust me, it's not smart to have your whole identity and purpose in school and your success in it. it's not healthy, and if things start going south, you'll lose hope in life very quickly.
4) more about schulich
since i go to schulich, i wana talk a bit more about it. social life in terms of partying and meeting a ton of people is gonna lack compared to those who move away, but again, if you have a life outside of school in toronto, it won't really matter. plus, if you're super outgoing and friendly, you'll make friends. don't choose this school if you want a traditional university experience. i do want to put it out there that you shouldn't put too much value on social life because you don't want to be someone who moves away from home for the social aspect and your grades fall into the 60s because you don't have self-control. at the end of the day, you're going to school for education and opportunities in business. 
the academic aspect is ok. don't slack on readings, do practice questions, and study in advance for things and you will do fine. schulich courses are curved, so be higher than average and you're blessed. there are some bullsh courses in first semester, but just push through them. 

there's so many topics to talk about and so much advice i want to give... but i can't collect all my thoughts rn. if you guys have more questions please post them and ill get back to you!

here's another piece of advice i just thought of: when you're choosing your program, look at the actual program courses. compare them across programs and see which courses seem more appealing to you. you obviously won't know that much about the course just by its name but if you have friends in the program ASK about those courses. make sure u choose the program that have courses that seem interesting to you and suit what you want to learn.
this is especially helpful if you dont know whether to go into  (for example) a business program or an art program. which seems better to you? intro to accounting or design studio?
be as informed as possible before making your decision.
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5th Year Brock BBA/BAcc Co-op student, ask me anything! (IB and Big 4 Co-op)

I'm basically always on here so figured might as well make one of these and help out any prospective students.

- First 2 years spent as BBA Co-op student, secured first coop term through BBA
- Transferred into BAcc Co-op after 2 years
- Currently doing a spring semester

You kinda get the best of both worlds since I have been in all (both) the programs offered at the Goodman School of Business!

And since I know these are gonna be popular Qs:

- Avg (both major and overall) ~80%
- ECs: Leadership position in a club, some entrepreneurial stuff, sports stuff
- Work XP: General accounting internship at no-name organization doing very basic stuff, manual labour

Since attending Brock, I have received interview requests from:

Company / Quantity / (Co-op vs summer intern, Location) 

RBC x 3 (Various positions, co-op x2 and summer intern x1, Toronto)
Big 4 Audit x3 (1x Co-op and 1x Summer intern, Toronto...1 x Co-op in Calgary)
Big 4 Summer Leadership Conferences x2 (Toronto)
CPP Investment Board x2 (Summer Analyst, Toronto)
Scotiabank (Co-op, Toronto)
Grant Thornton Audit (Co-op, Toronto)
Canadian Tire (Co-op, GTA)
Ontario Securities Commission (CPA position, summer intern, Toronto)
Mercedes-Benz Financial Services (Co-op, GTA)
TeamBuy .ca (Summer intern, Toronto)
Imperial Oil (Co-op, Calgary)
Suncor (Co-op, Calgary)
Regional CPA firm (Co-op, Hamilton area)
Small CPA firm (Co-op, Niagara region)
Publicly traded minerals company (Co-op, Toronto)
OMERS Pension Fund (Co-op, Toronto)
Big 5 Canadian Bank Capital Markets x2 (Co-op, Toronto)
Husky Energy (Summer intern, Calgary)
Accenture Consulting (Full time, Toronto)
McKinsey Consulting (Full time, Eastern Europe)

- Rejected from BAcc Co-op
- Accepted to BBA Co-op with 83.5% top 6

- Joined B4 Audit in January 2016
- Done 8 months of co-op, not at an accounting firm
- Major average ~85, overall ~80+
- ECs, unchanged from when applying to first co-op
- Completed a couple certificates in excel

- Get public accounting experience somewhere else. This is basically a must. I believe I was the only upper year hired from my school into B4 this past term without prior public experience. It's something I noticed during recruiting
- If you have the above, grades matter a bit less. Yes you still want to do as best as you can, but a high 70 is OK enough if you have prior XP. An 80+ is still ideal though
- Be prepared to explain why you left your previous employer (and don't speak poorly about them)

That's basically it. So feel free to ask me anything and I'll try to answer your Qs as best as I can!

*Even if nobody has posted in this topic for a while, feel free to do so, chances are I'm still lurking on here

Queen's Uni Life Science vs. Western Medical Science
My friend and I both got into Queen's Uni Life Science and Western Medical Science. We both really want to go to Queens because it's a great environment, we got good scholarships and the programs are super great but Western's Life Sci is one of the best programs we know of. Any thoughts on what we should do?
UVIC vs UCalgary Commerce
Stuck between the University of Victoria and University of Calgary for Commerce. Anyone know which school would be better overall? (res, student life, job prospects etc.).
Carleton PAPM vs UOttawa Polisci
For students considering/have applied to either of the two programs & for those in either program - hows the experience in both? Which is better?

I'm trying to decide between the two programs - 
Carleton offers a specialized program with specialized opportunities and a chance to build a network with a smaller student community going into the same field as you.

UOttawa offers French Immersion along with their program which is a huge advantage if you're going into politics. I believe it's your basic PoliSci program, nothing specialized but what really gives it that extra edge is to add in french immersion and co-op.

If you're debating between the two, feel free to leave a comment below w/ your thoughts!
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Best student life? 2018.
Which of these universities really showcases the "ideal student life?" 

It could be in terms of places to hang out, diversity, opportunities, comfort and party scene. Everyone's definition will differ, but a general agreement would be great!
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Which universities are known for having the most good-looking students?
There is ALWAYS a post like this every year, so had to bring it back this year.
This isn't to offend anyone okay, just a silly topic and of course - physical attraction might not very significant but eye candy doesn't hurt around campus.  : ) 
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BBA vs BComm
What's the difference between Rotman and UTSC's BBA?
1. Is UTSC more applying? For ex, they have co-op in good financial institutions, big 4 and CRA. 
2. How good is Rotman's internships? It doesn't feel like UTSC or waterloo's co-op. It feels more like you aren't guaranteed at all, all depends on yourself while Co-op programs are more of a guarantee (not saying 100% tho). 
3. Both programs can help me advance to Masters of Accounting (I forgot the full name for the program but I intend to pursue Accounting as my career). So does it really make a difference to my employers since I'll still end up at rotman for my graduate studies? 
4. Is Rotman's program harder than UTSC's BBA? I've heard that U of T purposely lowers class average to weed students out. Does this happen in UTSC too? 
5. Which program is actually more realistic? It's not always about fame sometimes and I heard Rotman is pretty much all studying and UTSC's BBA gives me a sense that they are actually going to give me work experience. 

Overall, I know that Rotman has more opportunities since its in downtown toronto. But more opportunities = more competition. For me, it looks like UTSC is the better option but people are telling me that's not the case. So, i would like someone to explain all of these to me, thank you! 

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McGill vs. Queen's !!!
Hey! I'm really stuck between deciding between a BA in computer science at McGill or a BSc in computing at Queen's. Both the programs are really good and I value them equally for what I want out of my university education, although I am worried about the internship opportunities at McGill. I'm stuck deciding between the city feel of Montreal and the University feel of Queen's. If anyone could give any info that would help me make my decision that would be great. Thanks!
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I think some highschoolers are mistaken about top business programs on this forum
I'm in high school myself by the way.
going to the top schools won't get u a job, its the effort you put in to market yourself.
I know people who went to ryerson and york commerce that got into the big4.
I believe the university you go to does not ultimately decide if you get a yearly salary.
everyone starts from the bottom earning 30-50k a year then slowly moves up.
wake up people.
if I'm wrong, prove me other wise and don't use linkedin or whatever  thats not real evidence.
only good thing about top schools is there alumni
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Laurier BBA or York Bcom ?
My average is 90 average right now. I got accepted from York for their Bcom program.  My plan is to get my CPA and start my own business after graduation. Deciding between York or Laurier BBA. 

Pros of York Bcom - Toronto, possibility of high GPA, Cheap, Lot of south Asians,  Save money, International Reputation
Cons of York Bcom - Overshadowed by Schulich in terms of opportunities, Student satisfaction 

Pros of Laurier - Has Co-op, Lot of opportunities, Students Satisfaction
Cons of Laurier -  Expensive if you include residence, Risk of not getting Co-op, International reputation, Not many south asians, Outside of Toronto

Any suggestions? 
Dream program
I found my dream program and it's only two cities away and my grades are above the acceptance average. I'm so happy
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Political Science Students: what's your experience like?
Just really wanted some insight into the actual polisci experience as a prospective polisci student. It would be awesome if you guys could answer the following questions based on your experience within your program & anything else you'd like to add/wish you'd known before entering the program.

1. Institute of Study & year
2. Was co-op available? Where have your placements been? What has your experience been like at those placements and how have you been able to grow networking wise from those placements?
3. Other networking opportunities available at your school of study + unique experiences that have been made available to you through your program of study/institution of study (guest speakers, courses abroad, conferences, bilingual program etc.)
4. How have you enhanced your degree (clubs, volunteering etc.) and how has it helped you build skills & experience in the field?
5. Best & worst parts about the program in your opinion 
6. Ways the program has challenged you (critical thinking, essays, assignments etc.)
7. Advice for prospective students 
8. Hardships in the program/institution (profs, courses, lack of student support, financing experience/studies etc.)

Thanks guys! All the best to you 
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Waterloo science AMA
The title says it all. I am a first year in Waterloo science so if you have any questions about the courseload, types of classes you would take, programs or anything let me know!!
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OUAC App: Queen's, Guelph, Trent, or McMaster
Hey :)

I'm a graduating high school student in BC, with an average of 92%. I applied for UBC, UBCO, SFU, and UVIC already but know many people who had gone to Queen's and loved it so I  thought I'd just apply to OUAC too. 

I want to go into life/biological sciences and hopefully med school one day, I'm also loosely interested in environmental science so UBC is one of my top choices for that reason, but of course I'm skeptical if I'll get in...

I only want to fill the three slots on the OUAC since I have already applied to BC schools. Queen's will most definitely take one of those slots, and likely Guelph as well, but I'm torn between McMaster and Trent. Cost is somewhat a factor since going to Ontario would mean I would have to buy roundtrip flights in the summer, holidays, etc. So I'm really hoping for any scholarships of some sort at these schools.

Merry Christmas! Thanks in advanced!

I don't think Ill get accepted to commerce
Queens Commerce is my first choice and my Ecs are really weak!! I didn't realize the important they were for applying to business programs until grade 12. 
My ECs are
Treasurer of a youth organization outside of school
I volunteer every week for 4 hours in a hospital gift shop
I might teach kids religion on the weekends.

not sure these are good enough for Schulich or any business school. 
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not sure if i should apply to the top schools.

i  go to Mary Ward and I have an 81 average currently because my marks dropped because I slacked a bit and rushed to hand in some assignments.
I'm also struggling with math, but I just did a test today and I saw an improvement in myself..
I have until mid February  to raise up my marks.

my current marks are

functions - 70
calculus and vectors - 78
english - 74
religon - 82 
accounting 80 
psychology 100
international business 83 

English used to be a low 80 average
religion used to be a 93 average
international business used to be a 90 average
I believe I can bring my marks up including maths
but I feel like I'm also being too optimistic about math going up.
 The problem I have with math is silly mistakes and not fully grasping a concept and especially not focusing on the small details I usually skim over.

I'm prolly gonna get shitted on here because majority of threads I see of students posting marks are 90s for business.

the schools I want to apply to are Schulich BBA , utsc BBA, maybe queens but I have a  health problems so  Toronto schools I prefer i guess, Ryerson  AFM, york commerce and maybe rotman

If I'm getting too ahead of myself to maybe being able to raise my overall top 6 average to a low 90
should i just apply to ryerson york and guelph or something then?
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Rotman Commerce vs. Desautels Faculty of Management
Hi, I've applied to both Uoft (st. george) and Mcgill for their business programs and I'm looking for some advice on which school you think is better. Ranking wise, I know Rotman has better research and a better rep but I want to get a good feel for each school, rankings aside. If you have any experience or can comment on the difficulty, competitiveness, job opportunities, schooling in general, or the university please let me know! Also, if I currently have around a 94 average (hoping to bump it up by February) what are my chances of getting into the schools? Side note: I'm planning to take calculus out of my day school and it doesn't start until late february, will that affect my chances of getting into McGill, since I know offers go out right after apps are due?
Thank you!!
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rotman commerce colleges?
I'm confused.
Even if I won't be living on residence I have to apply to one of the colleges but whats the purpose of it? what good does it do? what are the benefits? I heard that some are more prestige than others because of the curriculum or something.
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Business programs I can get in with a 80-85 percent average since I can't pull off a 90?
Idk what I'm doing wrong with my studying but I can't get high marks in math,  maybe i should study 2-3 days ahead instead of the day before. I'm not sure.
Over the next two weeks I have 10 tests to do, and I can't pull off a 94 average for top business schools such as Schulich, Queens, Ivey and Rotman. Maybe if i studied ahead i might but its hard to change study habits.
I know York BAS, Ryerson Bcomm or BBA ( forgot) is easier to get in. Can you guys recommend me other programs that are in Toronto?

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