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I'm basically always on here so figured might as well make one of these and help out any prospective students.
Background: - First 2 years spent as BBA Co-op student, secured first coop term through BBA - Transferred into BAcc Co-op after 2 years - Currently doing a spring semester
You kinda get the best of both worlds since I have been in all (both) the programs offered at the Goodman School of Business!
And since I know these are gonna be popular Qs:
WHEN SEARCHING FOR 1ST CO-OP: - Avg (both major and overall) ~80% - ECs: Leadership position in a club, some entrepreneurial stuff, sports stuff - Work XP: General accounting internship at no-name organization doing very basic stuff, manual labour
Since attending Brock, I have received interview requests from:
Company / Quantity / (Co-op vs summer intern, Location)
RBC x 3 (Various positions, co-op x2 and summer intern x1, Toronto)
Big 4 Audit x3 (1x Co-op and 1x Summer intern, Toronto...1 x Co-op in Calgary)
AT TIME OF APPLYING TO UNIVERSITY (September 2012 Entry): - Rejected from BAcc Co-op - Accepted to BBA Co-op with 83.5% top 6
WHEN LANDING BIG 4 AUDIT CO-OP:
- Joined B4 Audit in January 2016
- Done 8 months of co-op, not at an accounting firm
- Major average ~85, overall ~80+
- ECs, unchanged from when applying to first co-op
- Completed a couple certificates in excel
ADVICE FOR CURRENT STUDENTS WHO WANT TO GET INTO B4 BUT DIDN'T/WON'T FOR THEIR FIRST COOP:
- Get public accounting experience somewhere else. This is basically a must. I believe I was the only upper year hired from my school into B4 this past term without prior public experience. It's something I noticed during recruiting
- If you have the above, grades matter a bit less. Yes you still want to do as best as you can, but a high 70 is OK enough if you have prior XP. An 80+ is still ideal though
- Be prepared to explain why you left your previous employer (and don't speak poorly about them)
That's basically it. So feel free to ask me anything and I'll try to answer your Qs as best as I can!
*Even if nobody has posted in this topic for a while, feel free to do so, chances are I'm still lurking on here
It's hard to believe that when I was on this site (the former studentawards one actually) looking for advice to make - what I thought - would be the biggest decision of my life; you (well, many of you) were only 9/10 years old!!
And why am I here? I was roaming around downtown Toronto and came across that it was OUF weekend. I walked around and listened to what perspective students were asking and thought to myself - 1) Wow, that was me 9 years ago...2) I've seen a lot of people get it right & wrong throughout university and years after they graduate...it's painful to watch. So I thought, I would share with you go-getters a little bit of my perspective on Business schools / what life is like after.
Why should you care about what I say? I've been on both sides - I went through QC, did on-campus recruiting, met friends from different programs, studied abroad (exchange), did an MBA, been on the other side of recruiting and recently helped read admission essays (yes - we do read your essays and alumni's are typically involved in the process). I've also had different careers - CA (accounting), banking and now marketing.
Here are my 3 thoughts:
1/ Depending on which career you choose, name of school matters. Aside from that - it's all the same thing.
-The name of the school basically buys you access to some top employers in certain industries. iBanks & major consulting firms are known to hire mostly from Queens, Ivey & UT; so going there gives you a chance to meet these companies when they come on campus. -That said, they're looking to hire the best. So if you're not Top 5% GPA in your year...odds aren't high you'll get into iBanking..or Top 10-15% for Consulting. There are exceptions to everything, so this is broadly speaking.
-If you're looking into an accounting career - if you have a 80+% average, you're usually in good shape. Any given year - Big 4 hires the most out of Schulich, Waterloo & Queen's. You just want to be at a place where you'll have a better shot at meeting / competing for a job there.
2/ Internship & Co-op
Rightfully so, you go to B-School to have a good career afterwards, so naturally you want to know what's the best way to get you there. So let's cut to the chase. If you're in a non co-op program, it's COMPLETELY OK, if you don't get a job with a "big" on campus recruiting company until 3rd year summer. Think about their HR strategy - they want to bring someone in 3rd year summer, so once they go back to school, they can sign them on for full-time after-grad. So 1st & 2nd year students - they're there to pay attention, but probably not actively recruiting you at that time. Now that you know how this works, focus your 1st & 2nd year on getting 2 things right.
a. Learn how to sell yourself and tell really good stories. Majority of cover letters are so generic; learn to write & tell stories that captures people attention in 10 seconds. (You'd be surprised how many B-Schools don't teach you this, yet how important it really is)
b. Network - meet as many employers, get your name out there. They're paying attention, so once 3rd year comes around, you're on their look-out list. Yes, every company has a list of candidates from schools they consider high potential and want to talk to before on-campus recruiting starts.
Co-op: I'm not sure if there's a co-op program that's not 5 years in length...if there is, then my thought is completely invalid. I think you'd be better off, finishing a 4 year program with 1 year of full-time experience under your belt. Most employers kind of write off co-op experience, especially after a few years. Think about it - you're at a company for 3-4 months, what can you realistically accomplish that you can say you've made a big impact on...quite difficult. That said - if you have no idea what you want to do and want to work for different companies (like I did, but just with internships) then it's actually worth it. You learn how different companies / industries work - just be very good at answering the question of why you move around so much. It will come up!
3/ Is an international exchange worth it?
ABSOLUTELY! Not because of the travel part; though, most people do see it as a way to "live/travel" Europe for 4 months. It helps you tell a unique story - you've been abroad - the more less traveled destination the better. I went to Latin America - I was able to tell people I went in thinking it was an emerging market and how wrong I was. You get a new perspective of the world and business. You begin to appreciate that there's more than one way to do things, and that's a very valuable skill when you come out and work.
I'm opening to sharing my thoughts on other things. Let's agree on one thing - you have your opinion and I have mine, based on our own experiences. If there's anything you want to know, I'll try my best to share my perspective and my experience.
I am hoping to get into queens for engineering, but would like some advice on anything that would help me during the application process. I had a 93 average in grade 11 and a reasonable list of ECs. Is it more based on grades or the PSE? Any suggestions on how to make my application stand out?
Hey friends! So Im in grade 12 currently and will be applying to university soon. I am thinking of going into statistics since i really love math and ive been doing so much research on it and i feel like that's something that I would want to do. SO can you guys suggest me which universities I should apply to and which one offers the best program. I looked into waterloo and the co-op part looks interesting to me. Also, do you think there are good job opportunities for statisticians here in ontario mainly in GTA cause that's where I live. I heard that you need at least a masters degree to be fully called a statistician but would i still be able to get a starting job with bachelors. Feel free to share any other information regarding statistics as I would like to know more about it.
Hi guys, I've been thinking for this in a long time now since I want to go into computer engineering such as software development and such but the thing is I do not like to be sitting in a desk where I have to code something for a straight 8 hours of work everyday or whatever. I am a imaginative and creative guy but I just do not know which one to choose from since I don't want to go into the field without liking it. I want something that is entertaining, joyful and less stressing job. AND MAKE GOOD MONEYYYY I mean PIXAR AND DISNEY DAMNN
I will be starting grade 12, and have been taking french all throughout high school. For me, it is a mark booster (high 90s) and i enjoy the class, but i was wondering - is it worth to keep french, or switch to something like a 4M business course to boost my top 6? I plan on going into engineering or maybe business
How would you get into it? Can you make a career out of it? Is it financially stable? As a high school student whose experience is really just basic labs in class, I'm not sure if I would enjoy/succeed in research? I think I'm probably going into science for uni, and from what I've read on yconic, most plan to go to med/grad/ whatever school afterwards. Otherwise, a bach in science is useless(?) Thank you!
If schooling is not stressful enough, in this case, having to decide between a mining/mineral engineering program between either LU or the U of T, after completion of undergraduate studies, I must find a way to build upon my knowledge, work experience and expertise. This leads to the question, how is it possible to flourish outside of school when there are simply a myriad of things one can do within any given industry and how is it possible to build upon whatever it is that has been chosen to be pursued by making it even more valuable in the job market as a result of having gained further experience.
My grade 11 average is 93,
92 in math
92 in chem
91 in english
95 in physics
95 in social
As for grade 12
I have 81 in pre calc
81 in english
Physics, Calculus and Chem are yet to be determined because I dropped the courses in highschool considering that the admissions office only looks at first grade attempts for any course
Now I am going to do these courses officially for the first time elsewhere in the fall, which is when I would expect to apply to the U of T through Ouac.
Do I still have a shot at this program?
I also would like to ask, is Laurentian University's Bachelor's of Mining Engineering a good program as well? I am asking this mainly because it would be my second choice to the U of T, but it could arguably contend to be my first depending on some of the answers I receive.
I'm starting university this fall, and I've never held an actual job. I've done some volunteering here and there, but that's about it. I've applied to many different places for work, but never heard back. How detrimental is this to my future, and how can I recover?
I am strongly interested in immigration, refugee, and human rights law. I know that everyone likes to associate being a lawyer typically with corporate law and Big Law Baystreet, but I am wondering if anyone here personally knows any immigration lawyers and typically what their life style is like and educational pathway was.
I've always enjoyed writing. All aspects of it really - I always flourish in every unit at school, from presentations to essays. Most people on here always seem to have English bringing their average down, but for me it's usually among my highest marks.
That being said, it seems that an Arts degree (an English major) is a quick route to unemployment with no hope of job prospects. What are some other career paths that have an emphasis on writing, communication, and general literacy? I always assumed I would end up in law, but I'm starting to question it. Is there any hope for me to find a career where I can utilize my greatest strength while having strong demand for my profession?
I'm a current 3rd year student at Ryerson, majoring in Professional Communication. Aside from holding 2 internships over the last 3 years, I work as a mentor for first year students and in the student recruitment department for my program faculty. I've also recently been hired as a Project and Communications Assistant for the Government of Ontario.
I can answer questions about:
- all program requirements and acceptances
- campus life
- internships and co-op opportunities + job search + how I got hired in the government
- basically any other questions you might have
Hope you're all excited about the potential of attending Ryerson! AMA!
To all the people who have graduated with a biochemistry major or know of someone who majored in biochemistry, what are you, or the person you know of, doing with your/their degree? I just wanted to get an overview of the job prospects and options I have with a biochemistry major.
I am having difficulty with listing my education in my resume and any advice would be great!
The problem is that I am transferring univeristies in September and I am confused on whether or not I should list the university I am going to start in September on my resume. I know that I have not yet started the program but the degree that I am getting there would potentially be helpful when searching for a job. Should I put the university I will be starting in September on my resume? In addition to that the current university I am enrolled in, how do I list this under "Education" on my resume if I only attended for a year? Thanks!
Hey everyone, I'm interested in applying for med school in the future, and i was wondering which of the two programs would greater benefit me in terms of passing the MCAT. I'm currently interested in Waterloo's Health Studies Pre-Health Specialization because the program seems to cover all the bio and chemistry aspect of the exam as well as some social sciences (I'd have to take the physics and math part as electives though). I'm just worried that the Health Studies program won't give me enough lab/research experience compared to biochem; but hopefully, i can make up for that with my co-op placements. Any opinions/advice would be greatly greatly appreciated.
Is there a major difference between a UBCO and a UBCV degree? I heard that each certificate will mention which campus you've attended. Will that affect the decisions made by the grad schools or the big companies?
Also, which would look/ sound better.
1) A degree from Bachelor of Arts: specialisation in International Relations from UBC.
2) A degree from Bachelor of Public Affairs and Policy Management: specialisation in International studies from Carleton.
I've noticed that there are a lot of misconceptions about applying to schools in the US. As someone who just went through the process and did a lot of research, I'd love to answer any questions and help clear things up :)
I was also admitted to other Ivies, Waterloo BME and CS/BBA, U of T EngSci, Western Engineering + Ivey, among others, so I can answer questions about those as well.
So i have been accepted into UBC engineering as well as Waterloo computer engineering, and i can't decide. Any input would be appreciated.
- 1.5 hr commute from home or 15 min commute if i move in with friends that already attend UBC
- great city life
- home-cooked meals
- general first year (don't know if that's a pro or a con)
- coop doesn't start until 2nd year
- wide variety of dance programs as extracurricular activities, which allow me to further explore my passion for dance
- will have to dorm (as campus is across the country)
- 3.5 commute to toronto :(
- dull city life
- start in chosen specialty program in first year
- coop in first year
- away from family
- better reputation
- larger network for connections in silicon valley (for eg. has recruiters from google)
- waaaaay colder than vancouver
That's a couple of factors that were in my mind. Cost is not a make or break factor. What I really care about is the overall experience.
My end goal is to work or even get the chance to do coop at a bigshot company in the silicon valley. I know waterloo will give me a better shot at that, but at the same time I don't want to miss out on the university experience.. I know both universities are equally competitive, which is motivating for me, but I don't want to be stressed out all the time.
Thank you in advance for all those who will take the time to read all that and maybe give me some feedback.